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Don't expand thoughts when clicked in Expanded View

In Expanded View (up through at least 5.0.4.0 on Windows), clicking on a thought both makes that thought the active thought and ALSO "expands" the thought, potentially adding making additional thoughts and links visible in the plex.

If the user plans on saving the view, expanding each thought when clicked "wrecks" the view, requiring repeated extra effort to collapse the unwanted thoughts around the active thought.

This also makes it very difficult to visit different thoughts in the view to see and possibly edit the thought's Notes (or other Tool windows)

Please change Expanded View so that clicking on a thought ONLY makes it the active thought, while clicking on the "Expand" button / tab / "tombstone" ("+") remains to "Expand" the thought.

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  • jmopish commented  ·   ·  Report

    i agree with op. i don't want thoughts expanding just because i activate them. i have to activate them in order to modify them in any way. this shouldn't be interpreted to mean that i automatically want to see all off the activated thought's child thoughts.

    this bizarre behavior also activates when loading an expanded view. if i go to the trouble of eliminating some thoughts from the view, and saving the view, why would the developers think that i would want them to continually pop up. i have to think of this as a bug.

  • Cornan commented  ·   ·  Report

    The only subject of this request is to allow users to make an already visible thought the Active Thought in Expanded View without also changing the view (i.e. by expanding the thought).

    Users may want to make a thought active to see the Notes or Properties for that thought without also changing the view by expanding its links, and they cannot do so today either with the mouse or keyboard.

    This request will have no effect for thoughts whose links have already been expanded, and the "+" will still be available to expand links for thoughts that are already visible but where links have not been expanded.

    Frans, this request is NOT to eliminate expansion of thoughts and it is NOT about other circumstances (such as bringing a thought onto the plex for the first time).

    I can also imagine the PB developers creating a new way of making a thought active just for use in Expanded View. My input is that we already have two methods for making a thought active (mouse click or arrow keys) and already have a method for expanding links (the "+" above thoughts), so my preference would simply be that clicking on a thought in Expanded View only perform one and not both of those functions.

  • FransJehoul commented  ·   ·  Report

    90% of my time i'm working in expanded mode. Walking through my brain with expanding parts of my brain is just good to find related information even the relations are valuable information. Don't implement this request as asked. BTW i have zero saved views because PB presents me my information in a quite well organised way mainly because i have a relative high link count

  • Cornan commented  ·   ·  Report

    I should also note that there is a "timer" on the Active Thought in Expanded View (about 10 seconds?), so if you do prune the unwanted thoughts on the Active Thought, they will come back automatically (!!!)

    Best work-around is to only set the Active Thought in Expanded View on a thought where you DO want to see all the closely linked thoughts.